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- Interview with SPo0ky
- By
- Horny Toad
-
- In each of the editions of the Codebreakers magazine, I will be including an interviewer
- of one our members. Pay attention to what these guys have to say. It may save your life some
- day. Understanding what goes through our minds when it comes to virii might help you in your
- quest to become an effective coder. Be careful, it might send you to the funny farm!
- The first interview that we will start out with is SPo0ky, the commander-in-chief of the
- Codebreakers. This Austrian mastermind is responsible for organizing the Codebreakers and
- teaching many members virus writing. He has written many virii from basic overwriting to
- advanced TSR stealth virii.
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- What is the main philosophy of the group The Codebreakers?
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- Hmm... we want to give newbies a helping hand in programming, hacking,...
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- Another goal is to write NEW code! The good old DOS code has become outdated! In the future
- editions of our magazine we will write more and more "high-tech" articles like win95 and maybe
- win98 infections!
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- Also we want to get a better image for the whole computer underground! Currently we, the virus
- programmers and hackers, have a very bad image! Justly because of the millions of lamers who
- have nothing better to do then to "destroy the world" (I mean, there are "hackers" who just want
- to delete everything on a hacked server, crashing servers,..... I have hacked some servers, but i
- didn't delete anything! Everything I did was laughing at the funny passwords, looking around on
- the system and downloading some linux programs that I didn't already have on my computer!)
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- What is the average experience of The Codebreakers?
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- most of us are beginners but we also have some VERY experienced members!
- Hmm... how i said, it's our goal to help beginners, because...
- 1) ... they are our future!
- 2) ... it's just a great feeling to see how win95 users (or win95 lamers) grow up to be reliable
- (virus) programmers! Some of our newbie members have already written their first virus in
- the short time they were in our group (without sticking code together or using vcl's! hmm...
- their first step away from a win95 lamer!!?
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- What is the average age of the group's members?
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- sec... have to look at the member list... BRB =)
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- ... exactly 20.75 years...
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- How many virii has the group written?
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- we are a very young group so we don't have written lots of viruses yet!
- currently the virii of the month section of our main page is full with my viruses!
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- How many do you plan to write in the future?
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- enough to make McAfee rich!
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- Do you plan to write virus utilities?
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- yes, I know they are lame, anyway... currently we (I and arsonic) are writing one...
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- Why did you choose to leave the Power Empire?
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- 1) because there are too many so called "do nothing people" in it... everybody wanted to join
- just to be able to say something like "don't fuck with me! i'm in an 37337 H4X0r group!"
- and only a few people wanted to help me with new ideas, projects (like magazines,...) ...
- 2) the PE is full of newbies... the goal of the PE was to teach newbies too! But the first leader of
- the group (King Jebu) made 2 big mistakes:
- 1) ... he has let TOO many newbies into the group (we had 600 members!)... but he didn't
- get enough experienced members, so we were not able to teach the newbies!
- 2) ... he made "factions". We had a hacking-, a virus-, a cracking- and a warez faction.
- These factions should have made it easier to teach newbies their interests... but what we
- had were uncontrollable sub-groups! Every faction did what it wanted to do...
- 3) WaReZ people have taken over the PE... nowadays most "hackers" just want to trade warez
- (take a look at the 2600 hacking newsgroups to see what shit is going on in todays hacking
- world)! most of us have forgotten the good old hacker ethics... we should try to gain more
- and more knowledge, warez has nothing to do with that! What I wanted was a strong,
- reliable HACKING group and nothing else!
- 4) A lot of the members only wanted to make "hacker" wars! They just wanted to email
- bomb(...)! All the hacking groups say things like: "... to protect our members...", WHY? If
- all the leaders of the hacking groups had a mind we wouldn't have to protect their members
- because there wouldn't be any lamers who just want to kill each other!
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- I have ONE chance to correct all these mistakes, The CodeBreakers, a small but strong group
- without lamers!
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- How many members do you currently have?
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- Exactly 20, I think we will remove a lot!
- I have learned ONE thing while i was the leader of the PE: "A group with too many people can
- NOT exist because it is uncontrollable!"
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- Only groups with a few people can get strong enough to survive!
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- What is your opinion on virus related newsgroups?
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- full of idiots, microshit followers (lamers), spam, warez and porn...
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- Do you think that virii should be freely given to anybody?
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- Hmm... NO, there are far too many lamers who just want to use them to get back on their
- enemies!
- But it is impossible not to give viruses only to non-lamers, everybody can download viruses from
- the net (no matter if lamer or not!)... we have to publish our viruses on the net (where else should
- we do that?)!
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- Why do you like to write virii?
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- it's a great challenge to write new, smarter code so that no virus scanner can detect it... and I write
- them to get an excellent knowledge about computers!
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- without viruses I would be just another windows freak today!
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- What do you think about macro virii?
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- they are easy to write... some are very powerful... but I don't like
- them because you just have a little bit control over the computer...
- asm gives you full control over the CPU! this is what I love!
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- What plans does your group have for infecting Windows 98?
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- to be the first!
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- What is your opinion on malicious code?
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- I don't like it! If someone writes destructive code he must be very bored or he is just a stupid
- lamer! I think it's ok for newbies to write destructive payloads because:
- 1) ... they don't have enough knowledge to write a powerful virus, so they write destructive code
- not to get bored....
- 2) ... they have to play around with their code... they want to see what they can do with their
- new knowledge (when i was a beginner i have also written stupid payloads like to delete all
- A's out of a text file, or to change all 0x20 chars in the autoexec.bat to 0xff chars :).... i think
- newbies are like little kids who just want to play, they need someone (parents) to "grow up"
- to sensible people!
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- Would you drop a member if he wrote destructive code?
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- hmm... no! I would just try to change his mind...
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- What is the best way to learn how to program virii?
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- I don't know... I can only tell you how I have learned it...
- I have READ 100s source codes of commented assembly viruses...
- so I got a basic knowledge about assembly. I have collected more and
- more virus manuals and now I can write more and newer virus
- code........ I'm still reading/learning whatever I can get.........
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- How can I become a member of The Codebreakers?
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- currently at codebreakers.simplenet.com/join.htm or at
- www.htl-leonding.ac.at/cgi-bin/phf?Qalias=x%0a/bin/cat%20/etc/passwd
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- Any last words of advice to beginning virus programmers?
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- don't use windoze! ;)
- never give it up! sometimes it's hard but it's a fuckin great feeling when you find your virus/your
- name in one of the most famous anti-virus products! ;)
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- Don't attend a course for programming. They will just teach you how to program menu driven
- programs and shit like that,... They will not show you how to write a C program to get root on a
- server or how to write a virus! You will have to do it yourself! Believe me, I was in a computer
- class, they didn't show me anything new!
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